Subject: Illegal Immigration Solution From: DolphinOne@Verizon.Net (DolphinOne) Date: 7 Mar 2004 12:42:00 -0800 Newsgroups: alt.politics.immigration This is my first post here... I am a staunch believers that our country needs a stricter immigration policy to maintain our strong economy and offer its citizens the security it needs. Yes, America is a country of immigrants. Yet my wife and I fear America is very sick and on the verge of dying because of the irresponsible immigration programs. Yes, there is a terminology mismatch between George Bush and the American citizens regarding immigration and "amnesty" to illegal immigrants (or undocumented immigrants). First, I want to define AMNESTY as I believe the term should relate to Federal Immigration Policy - in my opinion. To George Bush, I have heard "Amnesty" is defined as automatic citizenship. To me, "Amnesty" is defined as "any foreign national of any age in the USA illegally being permitted to remain in the USA legally after paying a monetary fine of less than $10,000 per person ($50,000 per family) - and then still be eligible for permanent residency and later U.S. Citizenship." Going further, I favor a two-strike policy in dealing with illegal immigrants (or undocumented immigrants). First offense, the illegal immigrant is provided emergency medical care and then returned to the airport at the capital city of the foreign country from which they originated. Second offense, the illegal immigrant is guilty of terrorist activity by their mere presence in the USA - requiring life-in-prison at hard labor at our military base in Cuba. With that said, many readers are likely thinking that I am anti-immigrant. I am not. I am anti-illegal immigrant. And I realize many states will not distinguish between the two. So, if it means all immigrants must pay a price for freedom in the USA, then so be it. But, I am not anti-immigrant. I am very much pro-immigration - as long as the immigrant applicant follows the immigration rules that were in place on December 31st 2003 and my provisions discussed later in this letter. I'd even favor our government issuing 50,000 or 75,000, or even 100,000 more Visa's each year - if the applicants follow the immigration rules that were in place on December 31st 2003 AND my provisions discussed later within this letter AND violators are tracked down, hunted, and deported. I married a woman in late-1987 who I met in early-1986 in her country. We were married in her southeast Asian country in late-1987 and I brought to the USA in 1988. After we were married, I petitioned the US Government for a Visa for my wife. We waited between eight and nine months for the Visa to be issued for her to join me in the USA. (At one point, her visa was in a batch of other visas that had been stolen in Hong Kong in route to her home country.) We were patient - and we followed the government's mandate that all immigrant Visa applicants be patient - including Mexicans and Latinos. The mandate was imposed on all immigration applicants. And today, my wife and I fully expect all immigrants to exercise the same patience we were required to exercise, even if the patience requires waiting ten to twenty years (for a lottery). To grant Mexicans and Latinos an exemption to not be patient and to not follow our laws on the books as of December 31st 2003 is a slap in our faces and the faces of the immigrants who were patient and obeyed the laws of our country. America is a country of immigrants. Yet my wife and I both fear America is actually dying because of the irresponsible immigration programs that do nothing to address the incentives immigrants use and utilize once they are here. We oppose the Democratic Party's attempt to offer immigration violators (who are, beyond any reasonable doubt, nothing more than common criminals) any form of permanent residency or legalized residency status without paying a substantial price in our eyes. America has only recently evolved into a country like the Biblical Tower of Babble. That tower did tumble down - and my wife and I fear America will soon come tumbling down with its irresponsible immigration programs and policies, including the proposed guestworker program in its current form and the former open border policies of Bill Clinton and Albert Gore Junior (and other proposed Democratic open border policy proposals). Years ago, people came to the USA to begin a new life here. To work hard and start a family. To become citizens in the USA and to vote. That required a person making a commitment to the United States - and working hard to fulfill that commitment. Money earned here was invested here - or spent here - building a future here. But recently (in the last 14 years), the concept of immigration is NOT to be a citizen but instead has evolved to be monetary-focused - to earn dollars to send money (support) back to family & friends in their homeland. Additionally, millions of these immigrants (legal and illegal) commit crimes every day and lie, deceive, and defraud Americans in the name of their country's culture and customs. The simple act of sending money earned here back to their country is, beyond any reasonable doubt, killing hundreds of thousands of jobs every year in the USA. The numbers fully support that theory. This transition in immigration patterns is what I have seen being hurtful towards America and our economic resources. Normally, during a recovery from a recession like what the USA has been through, we'd have between 400,000 and 480,000 new jobs created each month. That is according to the GOP and Democratic parties in 1st quarter 2002 - that the politicians from both parties expected and promised all Americans that the job creation rate would be well over 400,000 new jobs per month by 1st quarter 2004 each month. But not this time. This time, we have a net total of about 175,000 new jobs created (as of February 29th 2004). YES - we blame this decline on immigration policies and the numbers fully support that theory. How do we blame it on immigration? In the year 2003, it has been widely reported Mexican nationals (legal and illegal) in the USA sent over $12-billion to individuals in Mexico using currency remittance services. Mexico President Vicente Fox bragged about it in an MSNBC news article dated January 12th 2004, about Mexican nationals in the USA sending back to people in Mexico $12-billion and how that has helped boost the Mexican economy. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/Default.aspx?id=3936803&p1=0 Author Jon Dougherty reports Mexican nationals in the USA are sending back to foreign nationals in Mexico as much as $15-billion during 2003 and numbers indicate that will be shattered in 2004. http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2004/2/25/161654.shtml In an MSNBC interview, Vicente Fox has not only bragged about his country receiving $12-billion; Vicente Fox further bragged about this, calling it "the rape of America's economy" by the 20-million foreign nationals (legal and illegal) in the USA from his country. And he has said he wants more? http://www.msnbc.msn.com/Default.aspx?id=3936803&p1=0 Many politicians in the USA want to oblige him - and give him what he asks. Many politicians call Mexico a friend to America and want Americans to believe it. The pure reality beyond any reasonable doubt is Mexico is no friend to America. But they are no enemy either. They are a thorn in America's thigh. I want to add a word about immigrant customs and culture. Many immigrants do enrich America with their cultural values and customs. Many immigrants come to America and adjust to American culture and customs by blending their culture and customs with American culture and American customs. If one travels to foreign countries (as I have been blest to do, having traveled to Asia, Latin America, and Europe in my lifetime) one realizes being a guest requires the guest follow the local customs and local culture. Yet, many foreigners (legal and illegal) come to America and then renounce American culture and American customs and refuse to obey federal laws or state statutes intended to protect the weak and young - people unable to defend themselves. Some say just a few are law- breakers. From my research on the subject, I say about 33% to 51% are law-breakers - in one way or another. Many American citizens (my family and I included) have seen first-hand how the vast majority of undocumented immigrants and even many refugees and legal immigrants come to the USA endorsing illegal cultural values and customs that violate either federal laws or state statutes - customs like female circumcision, child abuse, child sexual abuse, illegal drug abuse, illegal drug trafficking, spousal abuse, prostitution, human smuggling, sex before age eight or it is too late, and other unthinkable cultural customs that take unfair advantage of the weak and young, of people unable to defend themselves without going too far. Simply put, all undocumented immigrants (aka illegal immigrants) are criminals as are people and businesses offering them any aide or comfort. Pure and simple. But legal immigrants and refugees who endorse and are insistent about following cultural values and customs that violate either federal laws or state statutes are also criminals. Pure and simple. And our President wants all of these people - criminals - to enrich America with their cultural values and customs? The President of Mexico, Vicente Fox, says YES ... YES ... and YES - that his people in Mexico have a legal right to compete for American jobs on American soil because the USA is nothing more than an extension of Mexico and that American citizens must learn to be tolerant of the customs that his people follow and we must even respect the murderers and those abusers from Mexico - that it is their custom and America must not deprive Mexicans of any piece of their culture, legal or illegal, while they are in the USA. I say NO...NO... and NO - I will not tolerate the customs that violate our laws. And my wife and I are US Citizens - people our President and politicians is required to answer to. We have seen with our own eyes about two years ago as a then seven year old neighbor girl (who's family are Muslim/Islamic refugees from Bosnia) discussed and described her impending female circumcision procedure to be done in Mexico. It made me feel sick when the little girl told me one day when my son (her classmate a year earlier) and I was walking our dog. I was told the girl and her dad would soon be traveling to Mexico because they can not do the procedure legally here in the USA but it is legal in Mexico. I would not see her again for about two months - when she approached my som and I and told us what had been done to her. She said she was not hospitalized - that the procedure was done in a Muslim / Islamic religious mosque somewhere in Mexico. The girl shrugged her shoulders like "it was over." She said there were four other seven to eight year old girls from our general area and their dads with whom she and her dad traveled - all five of the girls were circumcised at the same mosque. This barbaric culture / custom must not be accepted, embraced, or tolerated by Americans. And immigrants (legal and illegal) who follow or endorse cultural values and customs that violate either federal laws or state statutes - the unthinkable cultural customs that take unfair advantage of the weak and young, of people unable to defend themselves - are criminals and deserve to be treated like the criminals they are. I wonder - are we wrong to feel this way? Did I do anything wrong? What could I have done differently? Well, my wife and I join together to draw a line in the sand and we, as US Citizens, order our President and Senators and Congress to not yield one inch to Mexico on any issue. We want all loans made to Mexico called due by June 30th 2004 including the $20-billion loan made in 1999. Let Mexico's currency collapse. With respect to Vicente Fox - when we see President Bush photographed along with Vicente Fox, we and our many friends equate that image to America yielding to unthinkable cultural values and customs that violate federal laws or state statutes. In many respects, Vicente Fox is no better than Osama bin Laden or Sadaam Hussein - and the vast majority of illegal immigrants (and foreign nationals who are law breakers) combined with Mexican and Latino culture / customs are a cancer that must be removed from this host body or our host body will suffer and die. My wife and I call on politicians in Washington DC to "get tough on all illegal immigrants." And if the government can not single out illegal immigrants, then we call on politicians in Washington DC to "get tough on all immigrants." To sit and do nothing between now and June 30th 2004 is equated in our minds as aiding the criminals - aiding the 8-million to 20-million illegal immigrants in the United States today. It is my position that the government must act in areas to curb the incentives that draw people to become illegal immigrants. These areas include: First off, the government MUST address the reason WHY illegal immigrants come to the USA. In my opinion, it is to work to earn dollars that they send home. Many immigrants (legal and illegal) send money to individual(s) in a foreign country - as do some citizens. Many people think "What is $100 or $200 or $500? It is peanuts to all filthy rich Americanos." Well, the money sent is money removed from our economy - and when combined with 8-million or 20-million foreign nationals illegally in the United States, it adds up. (If immigrants want to help family members in foreign countries, have them buy the goods here and ship them back to their native country. That helps our economy and it helps the immigrant's family back in their native country. That is the win-win solution for both sides.) Second, some illegal immigrants come to the USA to take advantage of our entitlement system - and public means- tested benefits. In the case of a legal immigrant, the legal immigrant must have a sponsor who is financially responsible for the immigrant - by having filed an affidavit of support with the immigration papers. Public means- tested benefits are not legal entitlements to most legal immigrants (Form I-864 - Affidavit of Support). (Refugees are the one exception that I know about.) Yet, many states and local agencies pay-out public means-tested benefits to immigrants (legal and illegal) like it is an entitlement. A third area is the penalty when caught is currently far too lenient and amounts to nothing more than a kiss on the cheek and an apology from the immigration judge. (I am serious.) The current penalty is a $1,000 fine and then the person can be deported or, under current policy, the person can apply for permanent residency. This is a joke - in my opinion. American immigration policy is not being taken seriously by foreign nationals. Fourth, I favor a two-strike policy in dealing with illegal immigrants (or undocumented immigrants) who are caught. First offense, the person is returned to the capital city of the foreign country from which they originated and, if necessary, be given emergency medical care. Second offense, they are guilty of terrorist activity by their mere presence in the USA - requiring a minimum sentence of life-in-prison at our terrorist prison facility in Cuba. Back to the $12-billion - please take a minute and think about that amount - $12-billion. Oregon's two-year budget (at $11-billion) is substantially less than that amount. To Mexico's economy of $900-billion, why do they need $12-billion from the USA? Mexico is not a poor country. They have widespread poverty but it is caused by the greed and self-centered self-serving infrastructure in place in Mexico where just a few families control a vast majority of the country's wealth. In other words, it is their internal problem - caused by their culture and their customs and must be fixed by the Mexican people in a massive rebellion. And we are among the 85% of American citizens (a super super-majority) who do not want Mexico's internal problems brought here to be duplicated here. Many Mexican nationals we know in the USA want to bring Mexico's poverty to the USA and force American citizens to experience it here. Maybe they have already succeeded? As I said above, in 2003, $12-billion was sent through foreign currency remittance firms from individuals in the USA to individuals in Mexico. Imagine that - $12-billion removed from our economy by foreign nationals from one (1) country. Imagine how much more has been sent when immigrants from Latin America, Canada, South America, Europe, Asia, Middle East, Australia, and Africa are taken into account. $24-billion? $30-billion? $50-billion? That is money earned here and paid here that could have paid for services and products here but instead is sent to individuals in foreign countries to be spent there, not here. And when money is earned here but spent elsewhere, it is very bad for American businesses as the pool of money available to be spent on goods and services here is reduced, causing employers to scale back, downsize, and even cease operations. If immigrants want to help family members, I again suggest the government mandate the immigrant buy the goods here and ship them back to their native country. That helps our economy and it helps the immigrant's family back in their native country. That is the win-win solution for both sides. Back to that $12-billion amount. That is $12-billion removed from our economy by nationals from one single country. That is enough money for 160,000 jobs at $75,000 per year ($60,000 salary + benefits & taxes). Do the math ... $12,000,000,000 / $75,000 = 160,000. The money that is paid to immigrant wage-earners here is NOT being spent or invested here but instead is being sent to other countries to be spent there. And the huge amount of cash leaving the USA for not just Mexico but for other countries are, in my opinion, stalling our economy's recovery and not only raping our economic resources but it is killing our entire country. My solution is not to accommodate illegal immigrants but to make life miserable for them. Whether the politicians like it or not, I have developed a list six items must be done in the first six months of 2004 or America will begin to whither & die as our Constitution is torn to shreds by foreign nationals. First, impose a high fee on all monies transferred by citizens and foreign nationals (legal and illegal) to individuals in a foreign country. If the fee does not curtail the outflow, then impose a total moratorium. Allow businesses with foreign investors to do business-to-business transfers to businesses and investors outside the USA in amounts less than $100,000 a year outside the fee. If possible, allow citizens to do transfers of up to $1,000 a year outside the fee. Allow foreign nationals in the USA to do no transfers outside the fee - that every cent in currency they send to a foreign country is subjected to a currency export fee of at least 50%. Second, make it a criminal offense for states to pay non-emergency means-tested public benefits to non-US Citizens. This includes cash assistance, low-income housing, child care, health care & well baby care, low-income utility assistance, and adult educational assistance. (These are means-tested public benefits currently paid to undocumented immigrants here in my home state. I have seen proof of this - proof beyond any reasonable doubt.) And include unemployment and social security benefits, too. And in the few instances where means-tested benefits are paid to a minor child born in the USA of foreign national parents, the social services department making the payments should do so to a court-appointed trustee who will be the one distributing the money to payees. Third, any undocumented immigrant in the USA must be required to go home and apply there in their native country. They must not be permitted to adjust their immigration status here. The undocumented immigrants must go back to their native country and have their status adjusted there and include an eight to twelve month period or even five year period for processing the massive amounts of paperwork that must be completed in English - and they must provide proof that they stayed in their native country. No proof, no visa. No fine is steep enough to properly penalize an undocumented immigrant in the USA - and the current $1,000 fine is far too lenient and amounts to a form of amnesty that is unacceptable to the vast majority of U.S. Citizens. If the person must adjust their immigration status here, then make the fine $10,000 minimum to a fine of $25,000 maximum - and require payments at 19.6% APR for seven or ten years - is still very lenient for these criminals - but acceptable with me when combined with the other provisions. (And during the repayment term, the criminal would need weekly check-in (probation) by reporting in-person at one federal immigration office, paying $25 more for that check-in.) Encourage citizens to report illegal immigrants by offering a reward of up to $10,000 income tax credit (and include a $2,500 fine if the tip does not yield an illegal immigrant). Only citizens would be eligible to collect the reward. Fourth, authorize the use of unmanned aircraft along the US-Mexico border. Using multiple aircraft like what was used in Iraq and other Middle East countries will expand the area covered without using humans. When a band on radar is spotted, have the Border Patrol alerted and proceed to that location to make the arrests. An unmanned aircraft can stay aloft for 18-to-36 hours without refueling. And the USA has thousands of these aircraft available now and options on thousands more. Each aircraft can easily patrol an area of five-miles by twenty-miles along the border - reporting back to base any motion detected in its zone. This is the fail-safe way to secure the entire border along Mexico as well as many costal communities. Fifth, Mexico has 40 consulates and consulate offices in the United States and I would like scaled back to five or ten maximum. There is only one reason for having more than ten and it is not to be of service to U.S. Citizens but instead to be of service to the millions of Mexicans (legal and illegal) living in the USA and to make it "convenient" for the 20-million Mexicans. Most consulates service not just the foreign nationals but also a few businesses and tourists - yet well over 80% of a consulate's business is being of service to Mexican nationals (legal and illegal) in the USA. I feel the number 40 is too many - in our opinion. I suggest that the United States charge a fee that not just Mexico but any country with more than five or maybe ten consulates on American soil pay a fee of $10-million per year per consulate exceeding the limit. And they'd be given 30-days to respond - to pay-up or shut the consulates down. Thirty days from the date any bill is signed with these provisions. Sixth, issue up to 20,000 temporary guestworker visas - but the applicant must agree in writing to: (1) Voluntarily sacrifice their culture and their customs that violate any federal, state, or local laws. This must be vaguely worded and the vagueness will give states and local governments the continued rights to modify local and state laws. (2) Voluntarily sacrifice all Social Security benefits for credits earned while being either a guestworker or an undocumented immigrant (working in the USA without documentation). (3) Not bring their minor-aged children along to the United States. (Bringing minor-age children along with the guest-worker will be equated to child abuse and the guestworker will be deported - and parents will be given a choice to either take the child with them in deportation OR the child (under 12) is placed in state protective custody until age-18 at which time the child will receive automatic legal residency.) (4) Attend three full-day classes on culture, customs, and laws - a class taught at our consulates - before a guestworker visa will be issued. (5) Not hold or apply for a state driver's license. (6) Secure work only in a state that has an unemployment rate less than the federal unemployment rate for thirty consecutive months. The fee for any visa with a work permission (green card) will be $3,000 - with $500 up front and ten $250 monthly installments after arriving in the USA - for any program; $1,000 for renewal. (These application rates are structured so the visa program is fully self-supporting and rates will be indexed to inflation and currency exchange rates.) The guestworker visa can not exceed two years duration and the initial application must be completed in the home country where the applicant is from. These provisions - provisions that must not be compromised as in our reasonable-person minds as they are fair and reasonable expectations of US Citizens on our government and all immigrants (legal and illegal) - will help begin healing our economic woes and our country. Anything less will clearly, beyond any reasonable doubt, only serve to further encourage the rape of our country's economic resources. I also oppose any acceptance of Mexican ID cards (Matricula Consular) and I favor states prohibiting the issuance of driver's licenses to illegal immigrants. Generally speaking, I do not see how any current immigration reform proposal (Democrat or GOP) will help or be a benefit to US Citizens as a whole. And thus, I shall continue to oppose them all until our ideas and feedback are incorporated into an initial version. I ask the politicians why must the USA reward adult unconvicted criminals who are, beyond any reasonable doubt, guilty of violating our immigration laws on the books as of December 31st 2003 with permanent residency and a job and rights to public means-tested benefits payable by states? How does that help US Citizens here in America to further enhance our country and economy? The bottom line - no current plan helps US Citizens. None! Some politicians say there must be an incentive, something given to illegal immigrants to get them registered. (I have a letter from a GOP senator and a Democratic congressman saying illegal immigrants must be given an incentive or the illegal immigrants will not comply with our immigration laws.) I say this - if they need an incentive, they are not enriching America one bit. And if they are not enriching America, then they have no right being here. And I for one believe if they need an incentive, they should not be treated like a common criminal but be treated instead like a terrorist and sent to our military base on Cuba (and I am deadly serious). I firmly believe that the six steps identified with-in this letter will deter illegal immigrants from coming to America. They will work if politicians would only give them a chance. (And I am glad John Kerry's staff has told me he will give them a chance for consideration in a John Kerry White House. I have yet to hear from the GOP or George Bush.) To repeat what I said upfront... I realize many states will not distinguish between legal immigrants and illegal immigrants. So, if it means all immigrants must pay a price for freedom in the USA, then so be it. Every two weeks, I fax a letter to politicians and advisors in Washington DC. I shall keep this up until this government of the United States obeys its citizens. What do readers think about these ideas? Am I alone in feeling this way? Am I wrong to feel this way? Why? Thank you. ==================================== The Above Post Is My Opinion And My Views. ====================================