From - Sat Mar 11 19:47:43 2000 Path: iad-read.news.verio.net!iad-artgen.news.verio.net!iad-peer.news.verio.net!news.verio.net!skynet.be!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!newsfeed.icl.net!netnews.com!newsin.iconnet.net!nntp.primenet.com!nntp.gctr.net!infeed1.news.cais.net!192.168.1.3.MISMATCH!not-for-mail From: "Michael Malak" Newsgroups: misc.consumers.frugal-living,misc.consumers,dc.general,balt.general Subject: Re: The cost of living in the USA Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 16:38:19 -0500 Organization: CAIS Internet Lines: 117 Message-ID: <8abps5$1ohm$1@nnrp-corp.news.cais.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: adsl-205.cais.com X-Trace: nnrp-corp.news.cais.net 952724165 57910 207.176.4.205 (10 Mar 2000 21:36:05 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news@cais.net NNTP-Posting-Date: 10 Mar 2000 21:36:05 GMT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Xref: iad-artgen.news.verio.net misc.consumers.frugal-living:76024 misc.consumers:38811 dc.general:18900 balt.general:5904 In article <38C948E9.75B0D647@radix.net>, kencorn@radix.net wrote: > > Tiny Human Ferret wrote: > > > In the Greater Washington Metro Area, one of the largest > > single factors in Sprawl is the foreign-born educated professional > > trying to get a piece of the all-American pie, which is to say > > their dream home in the suburbs. > > I doubt that you can document this. > > > The people who are tearing down the woods 80 miles from DC are in > > general not the average redneck, they are in fact largely the > > first US-born generation of those struggling immigrants, who want > > to be as far from the Ghetto as is practicable. Their parents > > struggled and sent all six of their kids to college, and all six > > of them married and paid for six new houses to be built at the > > edge of suburbia, where the US-born are having one half child per > > degreed couple and are moving back downtown. > > Or this. ASIAN POPULATION SWELLING IN AREA D'VERA COHN; PHILIP P. PAN WASHINGTON POST STAFF WRITERS Wednesday, September 15, 1999 ; Page A01 http://www.newslibrary.com/download.asp?DBLIST=wp99&DOCNUM=46766&TERMV=421:7 :21464:8:21508:10:62958:7:73360:7:73617:7:89272:10:175199:7: The region's diverse Asian population, encompassing high-tech entrepreneurs as well as struggling refugees, is growing faster than the national average, and Washington's two largest suburbs -- Fairfax and Montgomery -- are now among the 25 counties in the nation with the highest shares of Asian American residents. SERVING UP A MEDLEY OF CULTURES; IMMIGRANTS TRANSFORM OLDER MALLS IN D.C. SUBURBS INTO INTERNATIONAL BAZAARS KENNETH BREDEMEIER WASHINGTON POST STAFF WRITER Wednesday, May 26, 1999 ; Page E01 http://www.newslibrary.com/download.asp?DBLIST=wp99&DOCNUM=31298&TERMV=262:1 0:297:7:350:9:21008:7:31812:9:37214:7:37287:9:42524:9:42558:10:47905:8:47913 :10:53103:10:53240:10:53300:10:58404:9:58486:9:58578:10:73955:10:79186:10:79 216:7:84416:10:84443:7:84600:10:89750:10:89859:10: Joe Nguyen, a 38-year-old immigrant from Vietnam, knew just where to find the Asian noodles, rice and meat -- especially the pork legs sliced in half-inch segments -- favored by his family. SLOWER GROWTH SEEN FOR THE 1990S Montgomery Journal April 1, 1990 http://199.244.139.109/dcwww?-show:client/journal/oldarchive/j1990/q1/m01/t0 4/px/s000/016_001_001.dcs In the Washington suburbs, the demand for workers could help speed the growth of existing Hispanic and Asian immigrant communities. Revival; D.C. Leads Country In Renovation of Inner-City Housing; By Lawrence Feinberg, Washington Post Staff Writer Friday, December 11, 1981 ; Page B1 http://www.newslibrary.com/download.asp?DBLIST=wp81&DOCNUM=3360&TERMV=5640:5 :5646:6:58256:5:58262:6:68654:9:79154:6:79160:6: The renovation of inner-city neighborhoods, usually by young white professionals fixing up old homes, moved faster in Washington during the 1970s than in any other major American city, according to a new study by a Census Bureau demographer. After two decades of substantial decline, the white population increased by 6.9 percent from 1970 to 1980 in the District's major renovation areas -- including Adams-Morgan, Mount Pleasant, Capitol Hill, and Shaw. At the same time, the number of blacks in those > Not demonstrated. Sprawl is the natural result of a very human > desire to live as pleasantly as possible. Now it's demonstrated. "Young white professionals" want to live downtown. The suburbs are home to "Hispanic and Asian immigrant communities" > If you guys are going to come up with a solution, it had better be > something it won't take an army to enforce. Blocking legal immigration is not a solution. Immigration should be encouraged. I hadn't noticed this polarization until klaatu brought it up, but as soon as I read it I knew it was true and could be easily documented. It is speculation as to what actually draws immigrants to the DC suburbs as opposed to downtown. Likely, it is because immigrant communities already exist there. The communities were formed prior to the revitalization of downtown DC, and momentum has just made them grow. I do know that some immigrants do not like being forced to drive and get out of shape, so I don't know if I agree with klaatu's supposition that they are after the "American dream". -- Michael Malak malak@claygency.com